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In Topic: The mark of the beast
31 March 2014 - 02:49 AM
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In Topic: Which figure of speech?
22 January 2014 - 03:22 AM
Is this the one? http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Hendiatris
In Topic: Should we use unleavened bread during the memorial service?
04 January 2014 - 04:30 AM
Just a minor point that occurs to me: Paul and his contemporaries from Jewish backgrounds would of course be likely still to refer to the feasts as calendar markers whether or not they were observing them in a religious sense or expecting others to do so, much as we use expressions like " see you in the New Year" , or "the Easter break" or even "Whit week". And don't get me started on school term dates which seem to rule many diaries long after any children remain...
In Topic: 'It’s Time for a Schism Regarding Women in the Church'
17 December 2013 - 03:36 PM
Jesus seems not to have left any instructions for how his followers were to organise themselves formally in his absence ( apart from " do this in remembrance of me" and "love one another". ) But as an itinerant rabbi he upset the religious establishment of his day by associating with the less respectable members of society including prostitutes: he also shocked hs disciples by discussing theology with a Samaritan woman ( probably an outcast from her own society due to her unhappy marital history) . He counted two women, Mary and Martha, amongst his closest friends, and encouraged Mary to abandon the kitchen to sit at his feet - the place of an apprentice rabbi learning from a master. And he announced the news of his resurrection first to the women and told them to pass on the news to Peter and the others.
In Topic: 'It’s Time for a Schism Regarding Women in the Church'
16 December 2013 - 03:59 PM
I realise my experience is unusual in CDn circles ( though there are major UK conferences at which women are welcome to lead workshops, ) but it is still perceived as male-dominated by friends from other churches and by wider UK society. A recent Sunday Times article struck a nerve:
"Female students were banned from speaking during a seminar run by an Isalmic society at a leading university. They were also forced to walk through a 'sisters only' entrance to attend the event... and were segregated from men by being seated at the back of the lecture theatre. Men were able to ask questions by raising their hands but female students had to write down their queries. One QM student, a devout Muslim.. said she found the experience degrading "
There have been howls of protest at recent guidance which seemed to support this kind of practice in UK universities. Against this background it is no wonder that the traditional CD practice is a stumbling block for many.
However, I do appreciate that many, men and women, are happy with the existing mish-mash of compromises, exceptions and peculiarities , among which I have heard of or encountered:
A meeting (bible class or business meeting) being formally "closed" in prayer to enable it to continue with a female input,
Sisters being allowed to read out the talk of a brother (maybe a husband who is incapacitated)
Sisters conversely encouraged to write an article which can be read out by a brother
Sisters giving thanks at the family dinner table until a son is baptised at which point they are no longer allowed to
Fortunately for my sanity I have not belonged to the more extreme traditional environments for the last 20+ years! but I am well aware that for those who are not used to it, even the sound of a female voice contributing a vital clarification to the announcements can be deeply disconcerting.
"Female students were banned from speaking during a seminar run by an Isalmic society at a leading university. They were also forced to walk through a 'sisters only' entrance to attend the event... and were segregated from men by being seated at the back of the lecture theatre. Men were able to ask questions by raising their hands but female students had to write down their queries. One QM student, a devout Muslim.. said she found the experience degrading "
There have been howls of protest at recent guidance which seemed to support this kind of practice in UK universities. Against this background it is no wonder that the traditional CD practice is a stumbling block for many.
However, I do appreciate that many, men and women, are happy with the existing mish-mash of compromises, exceptions and peculiarities , among which I have heard of or encountered:
A meeting (bible class or business meeting) being formally "closed" in prayer to enable it to continue with a female input,
Sisters being allowed to read out the talk of a brother (maybe a husband who is incapacitated)
Sisters conversely encouraged to write an article which can be read out by a brother
Sisters giving thanks at the family dinner table until a son is baptised at which point they are no longer allowed to
Fortunately for my sanity I have not belonged to the more extreme traditional environments for the last 20+ years! but I am well aware that for those who are not used to it, even the sound of a female voice contributing a vital clarification to the announcements can be deeply disconcerting.
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