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#81 Mercia2

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 12:55 PM

Of course that's true. Nobody said any different.

No, you did not, but it is a belief of some on this board that we cannot understanding suffering and we must just mind numbingly accept this as the plan of God. The problem with that is it then effects how we see the Divine Image, that is the charachter of God.
"If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” = "Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?" = "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who maketh His angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire" Psalms (104:1) = "They saw what seemed to be flames of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them." Acts 2 - the secret is over, your ministering angel you need to be saved is the Holy Spirit.

Who Is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/20950-holy-spirit-mercia/

Mark Of The Beast - his Name is the charachter/image of the medievil popes (now modern man)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/4997-mark-of-the-beast/page__pid__439951__st__120#entry439951

Historicists - Dual Fulfillment (seven thunders = more literal warning)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/14248-historicists-revelation-has-a-dual-fulfillment/

#82 The Budster

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

Aren't you one who is at a loss to explain suffering?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:25 PM

Another possibility is that perhaps jealousy is sometimes good and someone can be jealous for another without seeing them as their "property".


When you love someone who is cheating on you then you get jelous, thats what happens with love, remember, when you were young and were pure how you all felt jealous? In these verses, God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone. Thats the context. The reality of not doing so is we do not learn what the Divine Image is, never manifest it and end up living loveless life of seperation from God which is the road to knowhere.

Thats why God is a jealous God, because we are loved.

Paul describes it in 2 Corinthians 11:2 forseeing this thread, “I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy...”

Which means we are truly loved. Whats wrong with that?

So, how does one resolve this problem?

* Accept the idea of a Jealous God as a brute fact, and dismiss human objections with the "My ways are not your ways" line.
* Look for a different meaning for 'jealousy' which carries a less opprobrious tone.
* Argue that inspiration can include human elements such as a culturally-dependent view of God which needs to be recontextualised for today.


So this one...

* Look for a different meaning for 'jealousy' which carries a less opprobrious tone.


The word jealousy is dualistic in that their is a positive and negative connotations, the Holy Spirit was careful to point this out in 2 Corin 11:2. Nothing petty about wanting to save our lives.

Edited by Mercia2, 14 March 2012 - 03:41 PM.

"If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” = "Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?" = "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who maketh His angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire" Psalms (104:1) = "They saw what seemed to be flames of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them." Acts 2 - the secret is over, your ministering angel you need to be saved is the Holy Spirit.

Who Is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/20950-holy-spirit-mercia/

Mark Of The Beast - his Name is the charachter/image of the medievil popes (now modern man)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/4997-mark-of-the-beast/page__pid__439951__st__120#entry439951

Historicists - Dual Fulfillment (seven thunders = more literal warning)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/14248-historicists-revelation-has-a-dual-fulfillment/

#84 Mercia2

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 01:31 PM

Aren't you one who is at a loss to explain suffering?

No, I explain it here - vid 1
and here - Vid 2

Gods hands are tied, I explain why.
"If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” = "Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?" = "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who maketh His angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire" Psalms (104:1) = "They saw what seemed to be flames of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them." Acts 2 - the secret is over, your ministering angel you need to be saved is the Holy Spirit.

Who Is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/20950-holy-spirit-mercia/

Mark Of The Beast - his Name is the charachter/image of the medievil popes (now modern man)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/4997-mark-of-the-beast/page__pid__439951__st__120#entry439951

Historicists - Dual Fulfillment (seven thunders = more literal warning)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/14248-historicists-revelation-has-a-dual-fulfillment/

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:11 PM

Thanks, your videos explain a lot.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:17 PM

No probs :)
"If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!” = "Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?" = "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who maketh His angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire" Psalms (104:1) = "They saw what seemed to be flames of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them." Acts 2 - the secret is over, your ministering angel you need to be saved is the Holy Spirit.

Who Is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/20950-holy-spirit-mercia/

Mark Of The Beast - his Name is the charachter/image of the medievil popes (now modern man)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/4997-mark-of-the-beast/page__pid__439951__st__120#entry439951

Historicists - Dual Fulfillment (seven thunders = more literal warning)
http://www.btdf.org/forums/topic/14248-historicists-revelation-has-a-dual-fulfillment/




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