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#1 Damien

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 07:38 AM

GOD's HOLINESS VS MAN's LUST
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Been reading an awesome book called Sex is not the problem, lust is from a Christian author names Joshua Harris :book:

He explains very well the concept of lust and our battle against it.

Eph 5:3 Since you are God's people, it is not right that any matters of sexual immorality or indecency or greed

should "even be mentioned" among you.


What is Ephesians telling us?

"Not even a hint of lust!!" :eek: :gagged:

Why is this:

1) LUST wants to go outside God's guidelines

2) LUST is "craving what God has forbidden" whether it be:

- FOOD
- MONEY
- SEXUAL
- MATERIALS
- DRUNKENNESS AND DRUGS
- VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR


3) The fire of lust's pleasures must be fought with "the fire of God's pleasures"

The Bible teaches us that a little lust is not okay. That's why God calls us to the daunting standard

of "not even a hint". :book:

We must swallow up the little flicker of lust's pleasure in the conflagration of holy satisfaction


- taken from Joshua Harris

Edited by Damien, 18 June 2010 - 08:19 AM.


#2 Damien

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 07:58 AM

LUST AND HOLINESS COMPARISON
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MAN's LUST:

  • - SHAME!
  • - Rejects and doesn't understand God :confused:
  • - Craves and desires More (Greediness and Covetoussness)
  • - Is never satisfied
  • - Impure, defilement, disgusting :yuk:
  • - Own Willpower
  • - Afraid to let go of it
  • - Develop a diet mentality towards it
  • - Appreciates selfishness
  • - Self Justification!! (Makes atonement for sins by making excuses)
  • - Remains in weakness

Edited by Damien, 18 June 2010 - 08:17 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:05 AM

GOD'S HOLINESS:

- HONOUR AND LOVE!! :rose:
- Loves God (Deut 6 v 5, 11 v 1, v11, v13, v 22 etc) :parakaleo:
- Content and Simply
- Satisfied with what they have received in life :sarah:
- Understands God and learns his word
- Purity, lovely, Good
- Embraces God's standards by the power of the cross
- Remembers always that God hates Lust!!
- Knows that once lust is lost, you find true happiness
- Diet Mentality towards the Spirit (Indulges in the spirit):book:
- Appreciates Selflessness
- Finds strength in weakness
- True Justification and Sanctification (Growing in holiness)

Edited by Damien, 18 June 2010 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:14 AM

OWN WILLPOWER
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The greatest problem we face with lust is fighting it with our own will power.

The Lord Jesus Christ says:

Luk 22:42 "Father, if you will, take this cup of suffering away from me.

Not my will, however, but your will be done."



What is the problem which is consistent in our own willpower?

- The wrong standard of Holiness
- The wrong source of power to change
- The wrong motive to fighting our sin


The error is to resist lust by our own standard of what we think it means to obey God. :witchhunt:

We put "faith in ourself" and "our ability" to resist temptation! :super: :doh:

This leads to ongoing discouragement and frustration. :gagged: :cry:

Edited by Damien, 18 June 2010 - 08:16 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:37 AM

INCREASING OUR STANDARDS
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Often it is frowned upon to have such high standards as it seems so difficult and hard

and sometimes comes accross boring to have high standards. :unsure: :coffee1:

What God is trying to show us though is by embracing the standards of his Word :book:

of not even having a hint of lust and impurity in our thoughts in action will lead to true happiness.


Let us look at a story by C.S. Lewis:

A man is afflicted by lust which is incarnated in the form of a red lizard that sits on his shoulder and whispers

seductively in his ear. When the man despairs about the lizard, an angel offers to kill it for him. But the man is torn

between loving the lust and:gagged: wanting it to die.


He fears that the death of the lust will kill him. He makes excuse after excuse to the angel, trying to keep the lizard he

says he doesn't want.
(Can you see yourself in this story?)

Finally the man agrees to let the angel seize it and kill the lizard.


The angel grasps the reptile, breaks its neck, and throws it to the ground.



Once the spell of lust is broken, the man is gloriously remade into a real and solid being. And the lizard, rather than

dying, is transformed into a breathtaking stallion. Weeping tears of joy and gratitude, the man mounts the horse and they

soar into the heavens. :harp: :first: :clap2:


Edited by Damien, 18 June 2010 - 08:38 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:42 AM

2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.



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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:48 AM

When we break God's commands, shame is appropriate. :shy:

In fact, it can be a precious gift from God. :huh:

An awareness we've done wrong - those feelings of conviction and guilt that cause us to feel shame

can lead to repentance and restoration. :w00t:

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:53 AM

That being said, it is possible for a person to experience misplaces shame, which results from what you

could call a wrongly programmed conscience. :confused:

"Misplaced Shame" is shame in response to values other than those found in God's Word. :tarkus:


Misplaced Shame can be dangerous because it saps our strength for fighting our real enemy!

Edited by Damien, 24 June 2010 - 08:20 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 10:00 PM

Good exhort Bro, you will never know a more truer peace than when the motivation is pure and the conscience is clear :)

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Posted 19 June 2010 - 04:24 AM

Good exhort Bro, you will never know a more truer peace than when the motivation is pure and the conscience is clear :)


:thank: still more to come :colter:

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:24 PM

"Like an Artist who creates a sculpture, strips away the inessentials until the true image is revealed" :artist:

Edited by Damien, 24 June 2010 - 08:26 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:22 AM

The cruel sad story of Raynald III :(
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Raynald III had lived a life of indulgence and was extremely overweight.

In fact, he was commonly called by his Latin nickname, Crassus, which means "fat".


After a violent quarrel, Raynald's younger brother, Edward led a successful revolt against him.

Edward captured Raynald but did not kill him. Instead he built a room around him in the Nieukwerk Castle and promised him he could regain

his freedom as soon as he was able to leave the room.


This wouldn't have been difficult for most people since the room had several windwos and a door of near-normal size, and none

was locked or barred. The problem was Raynald's size.


To regain his freedom, he needed to lose weight. But Edward knew his older brother, and each day he sent him a variety of delicious foods. :pizza: :strawberry: :acomtha: :arches:
:taco:
Instead of dieting his way to freedom, Raynald grew fatter. He stayed in the room for ten years,

till his brother died in battle.


But by then his health was so ruined that he died within a year - A PRISONER OF HIS OWN APPETITE!

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:25 AM

You can gorge yourself on lust, but you're always going to be hungry. - Joshua Harris :book:

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 03:46 AM

Walk Perfectly!

Gen 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him,
I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.


For thus is becometh us to fulfill "ALL" Righteoussness (Mat 3:15) :book:

- 2 aspects of God's Righteoussness

- Good and clean Morals (Psa 101:2 I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way.
O when wilt thou come unto me? I will walk within my house with a perfect heart.)
- Declaration of "GOD's Righteoussness"

Edited by Damien, 27 June 2010 - 03:47 AM.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:48 PM

Found this very helpful, Damien, :)

One way to overcome these natural lusts is to replace them with the fruits of the spirit, and think on the "these things" of Phils.::
And be moderate and healthy in what and how much we eat (thinking of poor old Raynald here!)
Do all to the glory of God. Read His word prayerfully, think about it, meditate upon it and do.




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